everybody has these long reviews about Etnies Shoes Arto Saari Brown Gum but all i have to say is WOW!i am used to the pop and wideness of my hook-ups decks,with my grind king flame trucks,and i got real used to it,and i found some tricks difficult without the pop and concave and i couldn't keep the deck with me,i changed over to Etnies Shoes Arto Saari Brown Gum and what a difference,i can't keep the deck away from my feet which is a great thing because now i can pull some sick tricks and i m very pleased with this company,so,BUY IT! I have just got the Etnies Shoes Arto Saari Brown Gum for Christmas because I have had previous Etnies Shoes Arto Saari Brown Gum deck. I wanted to get the Etnies Shoes Arto Saari Brown Gum deck because of its rating and the good views of people. I wanted to add my view of the board, it is an excellent deck and I have not had a board as good or better yet. I strongly recommend this board to anyone interested. The board is very very strong, it has an excellent pop and great for flips.